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now before we tumble off of the fiscal cliff. will john boehner get out of the way and let us avoid another fiscal crisis? hey, good morning, everybody. what do you say? here we go. on a great big monday monday december 3rd, good to see you today. hope you had a good weekend and watched some good football got maybe some holiday shopping christmas shopping. a lot of people around here in the eastern market neighborhood of capitol hill buying their christmas trees. i saw them all day saturday all day sunday loading x-rays trees on top of the cars going home, carrying them home to deck raid the x-rays -- decorate the christmas trees. lots to talk about this morning here around the country, around the globe, around here in washington, d.c. we will bring you up to date on the latest to let you know what's going on, but most importantly, give you a chance to sound off. >> that's what it's all about. you can give us a call at 866-55-press. you can twit -- join us on twitter or tweet us @bpshow and follow us on and you can join the chat room a
that is considered right now it does give house speaker john boehner program cuts like entitlement cuts back into the conversation. we're back with the show stay with us. as i looked out across the battlefield at antietam. i saw the future of one great nation. but only barely, because the sun was like, way in my grill. george mcclellan, the general, hands me his pair of foster grant sunglasses, and i could see! my wife, mary todd, found them so fetching. >> he looked so fine i started to call him babe-raham lincoln. >> i was like, mary, please. >> you look like a baby, a literal child. i bought a pair online, shipped to 115 main st., that's my gettysburg address. i'm funny. i find them to be affordable frames, of the people, for the people, and, not, by the people, that's part of this freedom thing. end slavery, let people buy awesome sunglasses. who's behind those foster grants? abraham stinkin' lincoln. >> i came up with that slogan myself. [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> announcer: ladies and gentlemen, it's "the stephanie miller show." [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] [ ♪ music ♪ ] >
. >> the adult in the room continues his campaign to cut taxes for the middle class and john boehner keeps shooting spit balls. the latest on the stalemate and the democrat's upper hand. >>> mitch mcconnell gets ridiculous with his demands to weaken medicare. one of the architects of obama care responds tonight. >>> house republicans pass an immigration. bill democrats say is divisive and inferior. tonight, congressman javier pasara on why the latino community won't. be fooled. >>> the first fast food strike is historic. what you need to know about the lowest-paid workforce in the country. good to have you with us. thanks for watching. president obama knows his opponent is on the ropes and he's not letting up. the president took his tax plan agenda on the road today. he e went to a pennsylvania toy factory to focus on the people who will be hurt if the tax rate extensions are not passed for the 98% of americans. >> if congress does nothing, every family in america will see their income taxes automatically go up on january 1st. every family, everybody here. your taxes will go up on january
-- >> bob dole. >> and john mccain today made a plea for bob dole who is in walter reed he wants to see this great moment, a worldwide standard, it would be good for business, but as you pointed out on the daily rundown today, the chamber of commerce supports this, selling wheelchairs -- >> around the world. >> and here, it's stalemate. it needs two-thirds, more than 60. this is a treaty. because it has u.n. attached to it -- >> going to say it's brand, it's about brand. >> at that moment with mccain and john kerry because of foreign relations issue and this is the way mccain sort of gigged john kerry and kerry teased him back. >> thank you very much, mr. secretary. >> thank you very much, mr. president. >> and there was a lot of joking after that. a lot of laughing. >> we should have showed. >> two of them have been close. people forget that the vietnam caucus, as strained as things have gotten in washington. >> they worked hard on that. >> what remains of it. >> with kerry and jack reed and the guys that are left, they're all -- they all look out for each other. >> where do you think
." at the top of the show, we asked you, why are you awake? and producer john tower has some of your answers. >> will says, i like the new guy, although i go to wide-screen format to accommodate his ears. >> where's the love? i'm moving awpaving the way for large-eared people worldwide. thanks, john. "morning joe" starts right now. >>> our country will be heading over the fiscal cliff that we ourselves dug and put in our way. it's the set of automatic spending cuts and tax hikes that can only be averted if our nation's leaders are able to display bear bones competence and middle school-level maturity. so is there a deal? >> there's, of course, no deal. >> of course! is there a prospect for a deal? >> there's not a prospect for a deal. >> of course! but the ongoing talks. >> there aren't even very many talks going on. >> you're killing us! give us something. >> but for the first time, there are numbers on pieces of paper from both sides. >> numbers on paper! >>> good morning. it's wednesday, december 5th. welcome to "morning joe." live in the nation's capital. this is exciting. and you know,
taxes for the middle class, and john boehner keeps shooting spit balls. >> it was not a serious proposal. >> tonight the latest on the stalemate and the democrats' upper hand. mitch mcconnell gets downright ridiculous with his demands to weaken medicare. one of the architects of obama care dr. zeke emanuel responds tonight. >>> house republicans pass an immigration bill democrats say is divisive and inferior. today, congressman javier on why the latino community won't be fooled. >>> the nation's first fast food strike is a historic protest for workers' rights. tonight, what you need to know about the lowest paid workforce in the country. >>> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. president obama knows his opponent is on the ropes and he's not letting up. the president took his tax plan agenda on the road today. he went to a philadelphia, pennsylvania, toy factory just north of philadelphia to focus on the people who will be hurt if the tax rate extensions are not passed for presidethe 98% o americans. >> if congress does nothing, every family in america will see th
and john gibson. i'm tom dana pireno will start in four seconds . >> tont on huckabee. republicans say the president will not budge. raising tax instead of a balanced approach instead of cutting spending is wrong. >> is the president serious about avoiding the fiscal cliff allen webb resphond. >> my homeowner insurance offered me $150 what can i do with that? >> they lost the home and business and sense of security. victims of super storm sandep ho on how they are coping. >> who can throw their hate in the ring for 2016. ladies and gentlemen. our guest host tonight dana preno. [ applause ] ♪ >> welcome to huckabee. i am dana pereno and i want to thank governor huckabee to have me guest host. it is it a month since the presidential election and half of the country is elate vindicate they voted for president obama and walking on cloud 9. the other half not so much. they are confuse despondant and sleepless. they wonder if the nation has gone mad and want to return to common sense not another four years on fantasy island. we are taught as kids to be good sports man and not gloat and giv
stall worth john mccain and lindsey mccain have come out strongly against her citing the benghazi attacks and her remarks. today, moderate republican susan collins indicated that she might feelel similarimar lls and a r rublicann s sator bob corker had a 75 minute meeting with rice and afterward they still don't sound convinced. >> i still have many questions that remain unanswered. >> there's a handful of people that the president surrounds himself with that all of us hold to a very different level, and the secretary of state no doubt is one of those. we want someone of independence. >> well, president obama and secretary clinton both rushed to her defense. >> i couldn't be prouder of the job she has done. >> susan rice has done a great job as our ambassador to the united nations and of course, this decision about my successor is up to the president but i'm very happy he has the opportunity with a second term to make a decision. >> but they're not just going to have to convince props even some democrats were reluctant to overtly support her. jon tester said: >> joe manchin damag
is. as i mentioned last night, before the election john boehner proposed that revenues could be raised by this much. that's the pile of money there. after the election, which his party lost, he's now offering post-election this much new revenue. so his offer since losing the election got worse. that new offer came in a new outline of proposals that the republicans sent to the president in a letter yesterday. it's a plan that they describe in their letter as "a fair middle ground." here's what they consider a fair middle ground. we did this in chart form today. because it turns out it's really simple. and looking at it this way makes it simple. here's what they are offering. on the side of what the republican republicans get, the republicans get the tax rates they want, the medicare cuts they want, the trillion dollars in spending cuts president obama agreed to, hundreds of billions in additional cuts, ending the payroll tax break, ending jobless benefits and they get the opportunity to create a new debt ceiling crisis in a few months. that's on the republican side, what the r
>>> at the top of the show, we asked you why are you awake? producer john tower has some answers. hey, john. >> hey, bri. nathan, i'm a huge brian shactman fan. watching "way too early" at 5:30 p.m. by a slingbox in bangkok, thailand. kelly writes, what's up with all these boston guys? at least you didn't get your wardrobe from barnicle. >> we actually talked today about his tie. i said i wasn't quite in his tax bracket as of yet. there's no mustard on there, is there? i'll see you in a little bit, mr. barnicle. thank you, john. "morning joe" starts right now. >>> i think they won the election. they must have forgotten that republicans continue to hold the majority in the house. but, you know, the president's idea of a negotiation is roll over and do what i ask. we need to find common ground, and we need to find it quickly. >> good morning. it's monday, december the 3rd here in new york city. the christmas tree all lit up. with us on set, msnbc contributor mike barnicle, pulitzer prize-winnering historian jon meacham, author of "thomas jefferson." "fortune's" assistant managing e
tracks. you have what john boehner eric cantor, what they're saying publicly, and what they're leaking to the press this is all selective, and what is happening behind closed doors. i'm sure and i hear there are negotiations going on. they are frackous, big surprise there. but the real work is happening outside of the public view right now. >> eliot: i hope so, but i will tell you just between us i'm tired of the public dimension of this because it's silly and repetitive of what we heard during the campaign. is it a fiscal cliff or a slope? how dramatic will this fall off be on january 1st? or is there going to be the decision that if this decision is not made on january 1st, we'll be fine. >> they constantly talk about a short-term agreement right now and then pushing important decision abouts entitlement reform taxes that kind of stuff into 2013. clearly we're not confronting a killer drop off, a fiscal cliff that we hear so often that will send the country careening into a recession after bees december 31st. this will play out across 2013. it's not going to happen all on one single
skirmish here between the speaker of the house john boehner and erskine bowls. boehner said this was based on a report that bowles laid out. bawls said no. he said the approach laid out does not represent the simpson-bowles plan or the bowles plan. in fact what bowles is is that the speech that boehner based his proposal on was something that bowles had laid out in the middle of the negotiations last year as the mid-point between two sides but bowles is saying today that the mid-point has changed, a lot has changed since last year and it's up to the negotiators to figure out where that mid-point is and where and if they can get a deal, larry. >> we'll leave erskine bowles to his own devices. this is not perfect. i'm not writing it. it's not perfect. here's boehner literally bending over backwards, rising above partisanship and the white house just slaps him down. slaps him down. don't they know how bad they are starting to look? only on the basis that boehner didn't raise tax rates on the rich but does have a tax concession on deductions. this is getting pretty silly. if the president want
coolige and john f. kennedy when they went in and lowered tax rates and you increase revenues which is what we are talking about. >> did you feel like it was a bait and switch from president obama and what you heard about in the campaigns. light on the details . i heard from members of congress that that is not what you thought was going to happen. >> you are absolute low right. what you see happening right now, dana is the art of politics and verse us the science of good policy. we need to move away from campaign mode and stimulate economic growth and wealth expansion and not wealth distribution. when the president is focused on the wealth distribution politic which thomas jefferson and hamilton lincoln talked against we are headed on down the wrong path. more people are pushed to food stamps and more people pushed to poverty and unemployment situation is going to get worse. we have seen that recently with the weekly job claims numbers coming out. >> and one of the things that are part of the debate and since the carter administration is the need to reform entitlements and make soc
to vote for it. they just need a few republicans and they need john boehner to bring it up for a vote. as the president says, i'll play you some clips here in a second, he made a very, very strong case, i think. he said look at these average americans behind us. everybody agrees we should not raise tax cuts on the middle class right now. so if everybody agrees, let's just damn do it! here's president obama saying this should be our first priority. >> obama: let's keep middle class taxes low. that's what our economy needs. that's what the american people deserve. >> bill: you'll see some photos of this event yesterday at the white house up on our web site at again, the president pointed out it's passed the senate. get it through the house. he's got his pen ready to go. >> obama: democrats in the house are ready to vote for that same bill today. if we can get a few house republicans to agree as well, i'll sign this bill as soon as congress sends it my way. i gotta repeat, i've got a pen. i'm ready to s
the republicans leaders like speaker of the house john boehner were able to put off making a counter proposal to the president's offer until today. crossing the red line on the talks by rejecting the demind that the republicans accept a hike in the marginal tax rate for those with income over a quarter million dollars a year. my view? obviously i agree with the white house on the substance and as i have said before, their hand gets stronger over time. but sometimes a new idea can change the dynamic. here is an idea that has been around for a long time, supported by james tobin way back and pushed by ralph nadar in a "washington post" op-ed this weekend. impose a tax on financial transactions. it will give us up to $100 billion a year, fail on a sector that has generateed enormous unwarranted profits for very few but benefited from huge bailouts the regulatory help but by and large escaped responsibility for their role in the financial cataclysm we're still struggling with. with me, dan gross author of "better, strong, faster." and brian beutler and eric bates. what's your take on this? how se
, but we'll see. jennifer, thank you. >>> ambassador john bolton will be here to talk about the growing crisis in syria a little later on. first, tonight treasure secretary geithner saying the obama administration is absolutely ready to go over the fiscal cliff. >> what we got today was a assemble nar on hoaseminar on h. >> the vast majority of the media is on his side. no matter what he says, no matter what he does, even though what he's doing is outrageous, but his own party won't support him. >> the republicans have conceded the language. >> we could probably solve this in about a week. it's not that tough. >> it was week. >> president obama has said that he has pen in hand and he's prepared to sign the middle income tax cuts. >> you have a president of the united states that has the mighty pen. you bailed out the banks. bail out the american people that don't have homes for the holidays. >> in his second term i hope he will offer fresh ideas and serious leadership. >> we need a response from the white house. >> i'm hea here to tell you that nobody wants to get this done more than me
. >> greta: tonight republicans have a sizzling question for president obama, what is his plan? senator john cornyn putting that message into a video. ♪ >> greta: senator ron johnson sits on the budget committee. he joins us. how you doing, sir? >> very well. >> greta: before i ask you what you understand to be the president's plan, the republicans put the revenues on the table. where do you get those revenues? >> first of all, a number of republicans said they're willing to consider that if they see the other half of the president's promised balanced approach. you know, where is he going to start restrained growth in government? we're open to working with anybody who's willing to acknowledge the problem. >> greta: who's going to blink first? >> first of all, let me tell you where you should get revenue. >> greta: okay. >> by growing the economy. just a couple numbers. already in this meager economic recovery, we've increased revenue to the federal government by $344 billion. if we just return to a normal economy, like we had in 2007, under president bush, where proven was 18.5% of our eco
of the appropriations and budget committee. also joined by georgetown university tax law professor john buckley on how the alternative minimum tax is affecting fiscal negotiations. "washington journal" is next. ♪ ♪ host: 25 days to go before the united states faces the fiscal cliff, the white house has rejected a proposal from house republicans to prevent tax hikes and spending cuts at the end of the year. no formal talks between the two sides are scheduled today. will go outside the nation's capital to get your voice involved. republicans -- democrats -- independents -- send us a tweet, post your comments on facebook, or send us an e-mail. we begin with some of the papers across the country today and how this latest proposal from house republicans is playing out in the papers. courtesy of "the atlantic journal-constitution" -- here is "the denver post" -- finally, here is "of the arizona republic" -- here is "the washington post" on what is inside this deal -- we want to get your take on this. what do you think? ted in new york, a democratic caller. what do you think? caller: good morning. i do n
have to give some credit to those who followed and as john john -- john iskander pt there were those that did not follow. they altered the ultimate form of the particular agreement. you need to appoint a few people to do the negotiating, let them be the leader, and hope that others follow. as a minority house negotiators, i believe that by single most important contribution to that agreement in 1990 was that i did not get in the way of anybody doing important things. if the final negotiations have to be done at the top, and they have to have some support as john pointed out. the republican support fell apart in the house it's a kind of interesting insight, i would mention there's a suspicious that that may be again this year. that house negotiators may not have the full support on the republican side as we didn't have in 1990. i think john was right about the opposition bubbling up pretty much at the end of the process, and i really not a perceptive fellow, it didn't occur to me until -- perhaps a week before the first vote came up that we were getting in to trouble and that we had a
his girlfriend dead. we'll have full details on this story in just a moment. >>> john mcafee is going to talk to cnn, and nobody else about this. he is the security millionaire on the run. police want to question him about a murder. wait until you hear about the hoops he had to jump through to get the exclusive interview. >>> and jordan davis, seventeen years old. today, he was buried. shot dead after an argument about loud music. we're going to update you on the case facing the man who killed him. >>> and in the meantime, personal tragedy in the world of sports. police in kansas city say a linebacker for the nfl chiefs, shot and killed his girlfriend this morning. it is a disturbing story. then he drove to the team's training center where he turned the gun on himself. police have identified him as jovan belcher, and had been with the team for four years. a spokesperson joins me now on the phone, officer sapp, this is sad story, and it is horrible to have to report. but walk us through what happened. >> yeah, a little before 8:00 this morning, we received a call from a resident, a 911
." >> i will certainly not turn myself in. >> in disguise and on the run. u.s. internet tycoon john mcafee is hiding in belize. from authorities investigating a murder. but cnn found him and you'll hear his exclusive interview. >> i think that what we can conclude is that we've got to be better. >>> an extreme makeover. that's what some republicans say the party needs after losing the presidency and seats in congress. all morning, we'll look at how the grand old party might be looking for a bold new image. >> why did you do that to me? >> humiliating tasks and degrading exercises all part of the therapy designed to turn gay merge straight. now several men are suing for treatment so controversial we can't even show you the pictures. >>> good morning, everyone. i'm randi kaye. thanks for starting your morning with me. in just two weeks, egyptians will vote on a new constitution, the constitutional assembly handed the new constitution to the president just a short time ago, but right now, egypt seems anything but united. supporters of president mohamed morsi have been filling the streets
did, john f. kennedy did when they went in and lowered tax rates and you increase revenues which is exactly what we're talking about. >> were you-- did you feel like it was a bait and switch from president obama from what you'd heard about in the campaign and light on the details, but that's one of the things i've heard from members of congress that they thought, wait a second, that's not at all what you thought was going to happen. >> yeah, you're absolutely right. what you see happening right now, dana, is really the art of politics, versus the science of good policy and i think we need to move away from campaign mode and we need to do the things that are going to stimulate economic growth and wealth expansion, not wealth distribution, when the president continues to be focused on the wealth distribution politics, which is something that president thomas jefferson talked against and also, abraham lincoln, we're going to continue to see greater problems with our economy, more people push toward food stamps, more people pushed towards poverty and our unemployment situation is goi
.n. ambassador susan rice or john kerry? >> well, for defense secretary who will it be? senator john kerry possible for that. and of course the vietnam vet later turned against the war and raises a huge red flag in the near future and the veterans for america join us now, hi, pete. >> thanks for having he me. >> read the pre-interview with you. and you're not a fan of either of these choices. what worries you? >> well, a great deal does, and a lot of it comes to judgment and you played the clip about john kerry and iraq and i still found myself in iraq, imagine that? and he's, both of them have records, set aside benghazi, set aside some of the recent events with susan rice and judgments on management of conflicts called into question and she was in the national security council back in 1993 when rwanda kicked off and she made a controversial comment about, well, if we call it a genocide and don't act. what will be the implications on the november mid term election? and if you hook at-- and then later on, reflexively supported the regime in ruwan da when there were more war crimes committe
. >> john boehner declaring a stalemate in an exclusive with fox, as republicans teed off on president obama first offer that included new spending plus 1.6 trillion in tax hikes. totally unacceptable. >> i think we are going over the cliff. it's clear to me they made political calculation. white house officials insisted disaster could be amended and demanded a counter offer on the table. >> what we hope for is specificity from the republicans. >> an hour later, boehner did that. oftenning $800 billion in new tax revenue without raising rates. half what the president wants. far steeper cuts to entitlement than the president called for. $300 billion in savings from other programs like farm subsidiaries. >> the president ignored questions in the oval office. he went to twitter to repeat there can't be tax cut at the rich at the expense of domestic programs. they have an unpopular move to raise medicare eligibility age from 65 to 67. slower growth and social security benefit using less generous measure of inflation. boehner decided to lay down the gauntlet and challenge the president's mandate
meetings with john boehner. >> gretchen: it is annoying to see just a campaign. how many people are tired of a campaign speech. why not come to the table and figure it out. i don't understand it. >> steve: at this point, both sides know what they will give up. what their concessions will be. they don't want to go first. we are 33 days away from the official fiscal cliff and sailing off of it . in the washington post they describe a sense much gloom descending over the capitol, bowles meet and he sees one and three chance of an agreement before january. but mr. bowles had met with the president the day before and president had flexibility about that higher tax rate. he wants 39.6 percent. maybe he would take 36, seven,. >> brian: or raise the thres hold. >> gretchen: why would the president be in a negotiating position . he won reelection . >> steve: this is behind the scenes. >> brian: leverage we can go back to recession. you cannot blame george bush because he is in dallas. here is president obama yesterday and you heard from charles krauthammer. >> familis and small businesses can enjo
into a civil war. did president obama disspeaker john boehner in a comment today. >> on the conservative side of the republican party today. with senator demint speaking on the idea that $800 billion of tax increases were offered. but he got the backing of mitch mcconnel. take a listen to what he had to say. >> i think it sis important tha the house leadership is trying to mov move it forward. i had hoped that we would be accomplishing more in the real talks. but i can tell you, there is nothing going on privately that is not going on publicly. even as he has to deal with this rebellion. he has to deal with democrats and harry reid's comments today give you a sense of where they are coming from. >> they have to come up with specific revenue. and they refuse to do that. it is a simple question of arithmetic. you can't get from here to there unless you raise the rates. so as you know in washington, a rebellion in the ranks like this could be a problem. but in the spohort-term, if it remains constrained. it could be a good negotiating term. he could say i have offered everything that i have and
it be known that the president and speaker john boehner had talked on the phone. but at the same time treasury secretary tim geithner told cnbc that president obama is prepared to take a dive off the so-called fiscal cliff if republicans don't agree to take hikes on the richest americans. and so we welcome peter alexander, at the ranks of the white house correspondents, with a look at all of it. >> reporter: brian, good evening, on the north lawn, the phone call marks the first time speaker john boehner and the president spoke in a week, that is hardly something to celebrate, but they wouldn't characterize what they caused in the phone call as the country barrels towards the fiscal cliff. with no talks and no progress to avert the looming fiscal cliff, you could say the house has left the building, streaming out of the capitol. tomorrow's session cancelled. with only three work days left this year, they are often criticized. just 16 votes. across the country, rising frustration, americans asking why the holdup. and what will their taxes look like in 2013. >> maybe instead of getting my sister
to be the next secretary of state replacing hillary clinton. a little exchange between john mccain and john kerry earlier today. watch this. >> senator mccain? >> thank you very much, mr. secretary. >> i think thank you very much, mr. president. this is what happens when you get two losers up here. we're just having fun. >> so here's the serious question, though, i'll start, james, with you, once again. who do you think would be a better secretary of state? would it be john kerry, the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee, or susan rice, the u.s. ambassador to the united nations? >> i honestly have no idea. i would say john kerry because i know senator kerry. i don't know if i've met ambassador rice before. but to be honest with you, both of them are imminently qualified people. i can't imagine either one of them would do anything other than a spectacular job. but i'm a political guy, not a foreign policy guy. i'm just unable to really render a very knowledgeable -- >> let me rephrase the question. politically speaking, who would the president be better off nominating? >> politically
you on to talk about, obviously, the situation in syria. let me play what senator john mccain just said at a news conference in the last hour. let's play it please. >> looking at it from assad's viewpoint, they see us leave iraq and return al qaeda in iraq. we've seen nothing but aannouncements of withdrawal from afghanistan. we've watched al qaeda elements able it to destroy our -- or damage severely our consulate in benghazi and kill four brave americans. the message has to be sent that the united states is engaged. that the united states is ready to be involved, and the united states is ready to do whatever is necessary to prevent an act that could endanger or take the lives of literally thousands and thousands of innocent people. >> senator mccain obviously blending in every issue he can possibly put on the list there. but in reality i think that sound clip points to the difficulty the president will have on any decision that comes out of this. he's going to have opposition or second-guessing from john mccain and his supporters, but what are the options if, in fact, syria makes
john boehner, has there been any follow-up that we know of? are they talking on the phone? are they gearing up for an actual meeting? john boehner staying in town while this crisis continues. >> reporter: that's right, wolf. he is. and we are told that no additional calls, no further discussions that we are aware of. there was that call, and that came after a lot of criticism on the white house that the president was not negotiating face-to-face with john boehner. but what we're seeing here is this strategy that the president has employed before where instead of sitting down with republicans, he takes his message outside of sort of inside the beltway or brings people to the white house. you've seen him sitting down with middle class americans also bringing ceos and small business owners here to the white house. that's what he is using to put pressure on congress to get a deal. >> yeah. let's see if he invites the speaker to come over to the white house and put some pressure on him. >> reporter: that's right. >> see if they can -- what they can do. as we all know, that cloc
point to someone in china. john lucas is an internet security expert and the international president of high-tech crime experts. did i get your last anytime right? >> close. megyn: thanks for the clarification. now, he's on his personal computer, but he's on government sort of property doing work for the government on his personal computer, and he's talking to people who still have all the clearances and so on, and why do we believe it was the chinese? >> well, what happens is when the fbi or anybody gets involved and started tracking this back, we're going to trace the ip addresses and the connections that gives you a connection from where the source is coming from. now, i guess they ended up in china, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it could have been someone from china. somebody could have hacked in from another country and started that attack from a chinese server inbound to the u.s. but the fbi's very, very, you know, keen on this stuff, so i'm sure the end source was china. megyn: they say that he not only is he, obviously, the former chairman of the joint chiefs, but th
, the family grows, it is just great. >> fred and john, congratulations. we're next. >> okay. take it away, don. >>> i'll keep you in the loop. any minute now, we could get a statement from the nation's highest court on whether the justices will conside cases concerning same sex marriage. this is a big deal. we're waiting for word. but first this, the fiscal cliff, the talks hit a huge road bump. zingers and verbal jabs are flying while actual talks are at a stand still. president obama says republicans must agree to preserve a middle class tax cut as first part of any deal. and he linked republicans to scrooge today while touring a pennsylvania toy factory. listen. >> if congress does nothing, every family in america will see their income taxes automatically go up on january 1st. every family, everybody here, you'll see your taxes go up on january 1st. i mean, i'm assuming that doesn't sound too good to you. that is sort of like the lump of coal you get for christmas. that's a scrooge christmas. >> that's pretty scroogy, right? president obama's proposal calls for $1.6 trillion in new tax reve
with respiratory issues. >>> john mcafee made a fortune as a pioneer of anti-virus software, but he spent the past several weeks shielding himself from authorities in belize. he's wanted for questioning in the killing of his neighbor last months. he hadn't been seen for three weeks until last night when he sat down with cnn's martin s savidge for an exclusive interview. i understand just getting to this interview was really an adventure in itself. they're looking for him. you found him. >> that was something almost out of a low-grade spy movie. it began with three words when i got to the airport. those words were, sorry i'm late. it was a prearranged code i had worked out with john mcafee. as for the person who was going to pick up us and take us where he was. i thought it would be a simple ride. it turned out to be anything but that. a wild drive through many winding, twisting streets. getting out of one vehicle, getting into another. switch back, turn back. eventually we got to them, but it was an unusual way of finding a typical interview, but then john mcafee is not your typical kind of interv
. >> stephanie: let me borrow a term from john boehner, i am flabbergasted by the budget which they put forward, which is basically paul ryan's budget right? >> more or less. i mean it's basically a repeat. they come up with revenues but they won't touch tax rates, and they don't really say how they get the revenues. they would get it from what they call loopholes, deductions. they don't specify where it would come from so really it's a combination of the ryan budget, and what romney -- governor romney began to say toward the end of the election when he was worried a they were being tabbed as the party of the very wealthy, so he said well we won't lower taxes on the very wealthy, because we'll get ahold of loop holds and deductions, but they never said what they were and they continue to evade. but mainly they evade the basic question, are we going to keep the high income tax breaks or are we not? and if they insist on keeping them, they are going to take themselves and the country over the cliff. >> stephanie: uh-huh. this is -- we have been saying -- i don't th
john silo is executive director and joins us life with the cruciall tips that you need this holiday season. i never thought about this at all . it is an important segment to do. what should people be aware of. >> good morn happy holidays. 20 billion in packages that is a lot of the cash and brut after shave going in the mail. you don't have to be parrinoid if you are prepared. get a lockking mailbox. if you don't have one. it is an inexpencive way to cope them out of your mail . get a po box sending important documents have a po box. it is monitored at all time . dropping your mail and sending out packages. rather than putting them in your mailbox or in one of the blue boxes that the crime rings pull the mail out at night. take it to the post office and drop it there. for santa's sake. tell grandma to stop sending the cash in the mail and easy it steal that out of the mail. >> steve: john one of the important thing to remember. thieves and there are a lot of them out there. thieves don't want the gifts per se they want the vital information and identity and account stuff and credit
but there was one time -- john made the comment that india or iran will beat the united states because iran plays chess and america plays baseball. in the gulf war, americans play tennis, we play golf. to a certain degree when you think about these kinds of questions about strategy and how you are thinking i do think that those i know that think because we have a question about where is china going and how is it thinking about it world? my sense is chinese strategists are very smart, have a plan, looking at assets. i don't know the chinese name for go but the black chips and white chips when you look at assets around the world and how they're moving them identity when i think about u.s. strategy can speak for canadians but i can think with the exception of jim miller we tend to be more reactive in my view that we are strategic but i do sense there is our strategic game but china is playing. so in closing beyond responding to the final comments from those we assembled by would like to get a quick snapshot of your assessment of chinese strategy in the world and whether you take it seriously or whet
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